Have a little bit of a Delimma

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Have a little bit of a Delimma

By fresh eh2*
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:32 am #41772 so this is my problem.....as some of you know its tax season and i will be receving my tax return within a few weeks. with that money im looking to take out my single cam motor and throw in a B-Series swap. Now heres where the problem starts.
Alocal guy has a Complete OBD-1 gsr swap for 2000. i want to get it but the problem is i have problems trusting ppl with buying motors off them like that. Im scared its gonna fuck up/not start or its been really abused and not taking care of. and plus the seller doesnt know much about it himself and he doesnt have paperwork.
On the other hand i can get a JDM B16 swap off hmotors for a little more then the gsr swap. I know it doesnt have as much power as the gsr but i know it will work and i would also have a warrenty for it. Another thing is that i know for a fact that the b16 would most likley be in better condition and have less miles. I would also have the paper work for it if cops were to pull me over and question me about the motor.
Honestly im leaning more into getting a b16 because its the safe way to go. Another thing is that im not trying to make my car crazy fast im just want it to have some power so it can get out of its own way.I mean if i want more power i Can always throw some CTR or ITR cams and some other performance parts to get a little more power out of it. But i just want to see what everyone else would do. would you pick performance over reliability?
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By stefan
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:53 am #41773 I'd go for the B16, as you said, you could always drop in CTR/ITR cam's, do i/h/e, the works :)

You kinda already gave the answer yourself ;)
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By Gorveatt
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:49 pm #41775
stefan wrote:I'd go for the B16, as you said, you could always drop in CTR/ITR cam's, do i/h/e, the works :)

You kinda already gave the answer yourself ;)


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By fresh eh2*
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:53 pm #41785
stefan wrote:I'd go for the B16, as you said, you could always drop in CTR/ITR cam's, do i/h/e, the works :)

You kinda already gave the answer yourself ;)

yeah i know lol.....i just want to make sure i dont waste my money you know.
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By ChicagoMike
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:57 pm #41788 I think the peace of mind is worth the extra money for a smaller motor. :thumb:
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By fresh eh2*
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:13 pm #41793 mike quick question.....if i do buy the b16 and decide to get some parts to get some more power out of it would some ITR/CTR cams,ITR intake manifold and a Hytech Header do good for a b16? i know you know all the answers to all motor stuff :thumb:
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By ChicagoMike
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:18 pm #41794 Um hell yeah!!

Get the B16, you can always change stuff later. Here's what I'd do....

I'd eventually sell the B16 head complete and put the money towards a complete ITR head, that way you get the mild port job, cams, and valvetrain. Hytech headers are baller, but other options to consider are DTR/SSR, or SMSP, all those would definately make power!! Dont forget about engine management.....Hondata would be fine.
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By -EJ1- COUPE
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:21 pm #41796 jdm b16's make the same power as an american gsr anyway id get it :thumb:
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By Bouli
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:23 pm #41798 B16B makes 185bhp and B18C4 makes 170bhp

So B16 > B18 :lol:
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By BAXTER_EJ1
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:32 pm #41801 B18C (Type R)
VTEC
Found in:
JDM Honda Integra Type R
Power:
210 hp (160 kW) @ 8,500 rpm
Rev-limit: 8,700 rpm
134 ft·lbf (182 N·m) @ 7,300 rpm
Transmission Type: 5-speed standard with LSD
Displacement: 1797 cc
Compression: 11.1:1
Bore: 81 mm (3.189")
Stroke: 87.2 mm (3.433")
Rod Length: 137.9 mm (5.429")
Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.58
Transmission: J4D (96specR w/ LSD)N3E (98specR w/LSD)

:hehe:
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By ohDirka
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:39 pm #41802
ChicagoMike wrote:I think the peace of mind is worth the extra money for a smaller motor. :thumb:


x2 I totally agree. You dont know what that GSR has been through and it probably has a lot more miles on it than a motor from Hmotors.
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By fresh eh2*
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:48 pm #41805
ChicagoMike wrote:Um hell yeah!!

Get the B16, you can always change stuff later. Here's what I'd do....

I'd eventually sell the B16 head complete and put the money towards a complete ITR head, that way you get the mild port job, cams, and valvetrain. Hytech headers are baller, but other options to consider are DTR/SSR, or SMSP, all those would definately make power!! Dont forget about engine management.....Hondata would be fine.

that actually sounds like a good idea, ill take that into consideration maybe i can do that somewhere down the line.
One more thing, Does it matter if its the Hytech replica headers? i herd they are almost the same thing and almost produce the same power.
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By fresh eh2*
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:49 pm #41806
D15kid wrote:
ChicagoMike wrote:I think the peace of mind is worth the extra money for a smaller motor. :thumb:


x2 I totally agree. You dont know what that GSR has been through and it probably has a lot more miles on it than a motor from Hmotors.

thats exacly what i was thinking too
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By ChicagoMike
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:14 pm #41810
fresh eh2* wrote:
ChicagoMike wrote:Um hell yeah!!

Get the B16, you can always change stuff later. Here's what I'd do....

I'd eventually sell the B16 head complete and put the money towards a complete ITR head, that way you get the mild port job, cams, and valvetrain. Hytech headers are baller, but other options to consider are DTR/SSR, or SMSP, all those would definately make power!! Dont forget about engine management.....Hondata would be fine.

that actually sounds like a good idea, ill take that into consideration maybe i can do that somewhere down the line.
One more thing, Does it matter if its the Hytech replica headers? i herd they are almost the same thing and almost produce the same power.


I like the real Hytech's, but the replica does make power!! Get what fits your budget. :thumb:
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By fresh eh2*
- Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:12 pm #41824
ChicagoMike wrote:
fresh eh2* wrote:
ChicagoMike wrote:Um hell yeah!!

Get the B16, you can always change stuff later. Here's what I'd do....

I'd eventually sell the B16 head complete and put the money towards a complete ITR head, that way you get the mild port job, cams, and valvetrain. Hytech headers are baller, but other options to consider are DTR/SSR, or SMSP, all those would definately make power!! Dont forget about engine management.....Hondata would be fine.

that actually sounds like a good idea, ill take that into consideration maybe i can do that somewhere down the line.
One more thing, Does it matter if its the Hytech replica headers? i herd they are almost the same thing and almost produce the same power.


I like the real Hytech's, but the replica does make power!! Get what fits your budget. :thumb:

alright, thanks for the info mike i really apriciate it :thumb:
i'll prolly be ordering my swap within the next month. ill keep you guys updated and thanks for everyones opinions
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