Turbo and Supercharger discussion
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By SOHCivegra
#58083 So during my build I decided to do a complete separate oiling system for my turbo.
Here are a few rough pics at 230 AM.. not fully mounted but you will get the idea.

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Let me know what ya think. Its going to be done soon enough.
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By teal_dx
#58093 so the turbo oil is completely separate from engine oil? cool idea

Do you need even a little bit of oil pressure though for the turbo system?
Before the pressure from the engine's oil pump pushed oil through, now what pushes it through with out some kind of pump?
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By SOHCivegra
#58097
teal_dx wrote:so the turbo oil is completely separate from engine oil? cool idea

Do you need even a little bit of oil pressure though for the turbo system?
Before the pressure from the engine's oil pump pushed oil through, now what pushes it through with out some kind of pump?


Yes, the turbo is 100% alone on the oiling. If ya look at the 2nd picture, look in the lower left corner. Thats the oil pump for a rear turbo setup, thats whats providing me with the pressure. So, yup it does have to have pressure and the pressure is taken care of. Also I used a catch can as a reservoir tank for the oil.
Working at GM I get to do a lot of testing on oil, turbos, headers, flow rates and such other components. So for the past couple of months I have been doing heat cycles on a duplicate turbo of mine using Mobil 1 5w30. So I came to the conclusion that I will be roughly changing the turbo oil every other engine oil change.
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By teal_dx
#58100 Oh I see the catch can now, I thought the pump was some kind of catch ban before. Well that's pretty innovative, I have to say your car is the first I've seen with this :thumb:
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By SOHCivegra
#58102
teal_dx wrote:Oh I see the catch can now, I thought the pump was some kind of catch ban before. Well that's pretty innovative, I have to say your car is the first I've seen with this :thumb:


I hope to help others with their oiling systems. Maybe I'll set some sort of trend and be put in some popular magazines. Hahahahaha, not really. I just wanted this build to be a little bit different from everyone elses. So we will see, all of the experiments I have done lead to this being a really good idea.
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By Ecc0
#58129 I really like this its simple but so effective and in a way gives better life to the Turbo oil :thumb:

Can I just ask as I am still a bit of a boost noob with this in place do you still need to run a oil line from the sump???
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By SOHCivegra
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Ecc0 wrote:I really like this its simple but so effective and in a way gives better life to the Turbo oil :thumb:

Can I just ask as I am still a bit of a boost noob with this in place do you still need to run a oil line from the sump???


Thanks for the compliments guys.
Nope, no oil lines needed from the engine at all. They way I have this setup, I have it running from the catch can (reservoir) to the pump, from the pump into the oil cooler ( mounted in front of the intercooler) then from the cooler into the top of the turbo and then from the bottom of the turbo back into the top of the catch can (reservoir). The turbo is 100% stand alone in reguards to the oiling properties.
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By SOHCivegra
#60449 Just an update on the oiling system.

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By fujikoma
#64739 very interesting setup

Do you have the pump on a timer to cool down the turbo bearings after driving and shut down ?

Is there any kind of warning light/signal if the pump should fail and stop lubricating your turbo ?

How does the breather work, assuming that filter is a breather ?

questions questions :D
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By Highnitro
#69599
fujikoma wrote:very interesting setup

Do you have the pump on a timer to cool down the turbo bearings after driving and shut down ?

Is there any kind of warning light/signal if the pump should fail and stop lubricating your turbo ?

How does the breather work, assuming that filter is a breather ?

questions questions :D


those are the same questions i wanted to ask.

i think that this could be a real ground breaking trend.

more answers please!!!!!!!
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By SOHCivegra
#69603
fujikoma wrote:very interesting setup

Do you have the pump on a timer to cool down the turbo bearings after driving and shut down ?

Is there any kind of warning light/signal if the pump should fail and stop lubricating your turbo ?

How does the breather work, assuming that filter is a breather ?

questions questions :D


I will be using just a standard turbo timer to keep the pump on after i turno off my car.
I actually have a regulator with a gauge that I can see from the cockpit. So as long as i see pressure then the pump is chugging along.
Yes the breather filter is just that. So I don't create a redicilous amount of pressure in the system.


As for being a trend, I sure hope so. Its a bit more involved by building the system and a bit more expensive because of the pump. But turbo werks makes the pump for $230. and I just built everything else at work. But most everyone can go to a local parker store or hardware store to get the braided lines completed.

Any other questions feel free to ask. I can also take some more pics if need be.
By matsh
#69748 Dosen't the catch can have to be lower then the turbo retur oil or does the oil been pushed to the can?
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By SOHCivegra
#69759 Like I said before. I am still in the process of working out all of the bugs for this system.
Yes you would be correct with the resevoir tank needing to be lower than the turbo.
I may actually be deleting the resevoir all together. This has been an ongoing project and idea for a while now.
I'll keep everyone updated on what I decide to do with this. I'll even do a DIY with Pics and all once its perfected.