ECU, Wiring, Sensors
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By CivNation
#184867 My 95 civic SI has a P06 ECU and a JDM D15B im just wondering if this ECU will work fine with the vtec engagement, me car is currently in my garage suffering from severe body work or else I would just try it out myself, thanks.
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By Classiccarsrule85
#184870 as far as i know the P06 ecu is just D15b7 the P08 is the 1.5l vtec ecu or you could use the P28 tho i think that may make your car run a bit rich....

tho i could be wrong....
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By CivNation
#184874 Appreciate the input, so i'll need a new ECU I take it?
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By CivNation
#184881 There is a high possibility that this one is chipped, ill check it out, if not, how much would a chip run ?
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By 99cx
#184882 not sure in your area.
i picked up a chipped P28 for 20$ with a trade in of my old one
i could have got the chip for 15$ by itself bu id rather have it done for the little extra.
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By suspendedHatch
#184966 Chips are total crap. Some shyster does a blanket fuel increase and a blanket ignition timing increase, thinking "more is better", which is very wrong. Or they copy a map from another car that was tuned. Well, no two cars can use the same tune. Each engine has to be individually dyno tuned.

P28 is the ECU you need. No, it will not make the car run rich.
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By 99cx
#184968 i disagree. i got my P28 "Custom" tuned and i think its an amazing difference.
its great management for a turbo system
you can do custom Vtec engagement
change speed limiter and redline
create a two step launch control
using Uberdata or Crome software
tuning programs like Neptune, Ectune, and Hondata.
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By d-mon
#185019 you don't need to 'chip' or tune a p06 to enable vtec.
you need to install vtec circuitry.
xenocron.com has kits for both.
here is the one for vtec:
http://www.xenocron.com/vtec-conversion ... p-278.html

when i need to pass smog with my stock d16z6, i put in a stock p06 because with my stock p28 would fail for excessive H/C (rich)
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By suspendedHatch
#185136
99cx wrote:i disagree. i got my P28 "Custom" tuned and i think its an amazing difference.
its great management for a turbo system
you can do custom Vtec engagement
change speed limiter and redline
create a two step launch control
using Uberdata or Crome software
tuning programs like Neptune, Ectune, and Hondata.


What's a "custom" tune? Did you get your car dyno-tuned or is this one of those "I can't believe it's not butter" deals?

Did you do a baseline dyno before the chip and then another to see the difference? Because there's an article online where they tested 4-5 chips and they lost power on every single one.

As far as "I felt an amazing difference"... I worked at an exhaust shop for a short time. I can't tell you how many times a customer came in with a hole in their exhaust, bad manifold gasket, or bad muffler that made their car loud and they said "it feels like it makes more power".

I also worked for a short time at a dyno shop. I've seen throttle body spacers, oversized and unjustified injectors, oversized throttle bodies, port and polish jobs, even air intake pipes that all lost power from stock. My coworker loved to put his AEM in place of the customers Hondata or hacked ECU and within a few minutes he can get their car making more power, running and idling better. The big thing is that the power output from one dyno pull to the next would be consistent. With OEM ECU based tuning, the ignition timing would wander from one pull to the next resulting in a change in power with no change made to the tune.

He also has a box of discarded VAFC and similar devices but you don't see as much of that as you used to.

You can't reliably judge a small to modest power increase. We're not sensitive enough. And besides that our psychology is such that if you expect an increase, you will perceive an increase.

The dyno settles all doubt.
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By 99cx
#185198 This is true and no, i did not dyno.

it was just an impulse buy i guess you can say?
He was selling them and i kinda wanted one? haha
anyways its a bonus because when i swap to an F-Series i can just get it re-programmed instead running a new one.

And i do feel a difference. but that could just be all in my head, as in a think there is one so i believe there is one? hahaha :P

anyways off topic here...
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By CivNation
#185201 Wouldn't I be better off just buying a P28 at a junk yard, there are no such "smog" tests in New Brunswick haha.
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By d-mon
#185265
CivNation wrote:Wouldn't I be better off just buying a P28 at a junk yard, there are no such "smog" tests in New Brunswick haha.

if you can get one cheap, jump on it.
out here it's either mod a $40 p06 or buy a 'virgin p28' for $125.
they have the same circuit board...
and yes california law suck, infinitly