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By Danny_P
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92CivicSquach wrote:So im a bit confused :? ....are you doing the H swap? I think that is a great swap. When i was looking for swaps, that was one that i looked up. Lots of power, torque for days. Great things. The only thing i have heard thats negative about them....They are heavy as shit, so they can affect the handling of your ride pretty badly (obviously if you are making a drag set up this isnt going to bother you). Also, the wiring is kinda a pain in the ass.?.?

Anyway, my ls swap came to me cheap, and was a easy choice after reading up on it, but i would love to see a H car up here. :thumb:


Cool ill have to have a look at yours! And I thought someone would comment on the weights... As far as I know no one has compared weights in full builds so here's my stock axle weights!
Front 620kg
Rear 380kg

Ill weight the car again after the conversion, see if we can confirm or get rid of any rumours!
By Danny_P
#329404 Thinking about it I could weigh the engine and box with oil no coolent of the d15 and h22 when their lifted, ill see what I can do....

I could even weight the 5 d series mounts and compare them to the 3 h22 mounts.
Weigh the drive shafts to compare them... Compare coolent quantities etc etc...
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By 92CivicSquach
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Danny_P wrote:Thinking about it I could weigh the engine and boxwwith oil no coolent of the d15 and h22 when their lifted, ill see what I can do....

I could even weight the 5 d series mounts and compare them to the 3 h22 mounts.
Weigh the drive shafts to compare them... Compare coolent quantities etc etc...


Dude, that would be amazing. I think facts would help anyone else looking to do this swap. You have your work cut out for you. Good luck. :woot:
By Danny_P
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92CivicSquach wrote:
Danny_P wrote:Thinking about it I could weigh the engine and boxwwith oil no coolent of the d15 and h22 when their lifted, ill see what I can do....

I could even weight the 5 d series mounts and compare them to the 3 h22 mounts.
Weigh the drive shafts to compare them... Compare coolent quantities etc etc...


Dude, that would be amazing. I think facts would help anyone else looking to do this swap. You have your work cut out for you. Good luck. :woot:


Thanks Man! i know theirs alot of rumors, and personally i dont think theirs much in it weight wise...
By Danny_P
#329761 I had a rattle that got worse and worse... i couldn't take it anymore. i decided to find out what it was. I rectified it, but didn't find it if you know what i mean.

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I basically attacked everything possible with foam and double sided tape.
Vacuumed up all the crap aswell... bet that reduced the cas weight by about 2KG!!! javascript:emoticon(':woot:')

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I got a door card for the passenger side as mine was damaged, chunks out of it from the previous owner.

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Just needs a clean and it will be like new!

I started a little weight reduction while i had the interior out, unnecessary items.
Center seat belt
Speaker brackets rear pair

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And next i think ill start on the JDM tailgate and get it looking good. (Fibreglass for light weight!)

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Oh and this came for the rear roll bar!

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By Danny_P
#332257 To get it done sooner rather than later ive booked a week off work next month so it wont be long now!

Ive also been thinking of the weight thing, the weight of a honda alloy or aluminium block with FRM sleeves (Which were designed for light weight and superior cooling) would be lighter than any Ford Renault ect from the same time period or even from more recently... fact is honda's engines were far advanced compared to the competition, not only with variable valve timing (Since 1988) not like toyota (for the past 10 years and VW are only just getting the hang of it over the Past 5 years at a push) But with their design in engines as a whole.

Thats why their hasnt been a single indy car engine failure since honda became the sole supplier of motors in 2006.

So with all this in mind, and the fact the engine is light anyway compared to the competition of that time and now i recon ill be fine...

Ill update the thread with some more images as i have some new LCA's and i forgot to add the dual core radiator.
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By Danny_P
#333135 So way back when i got it, it had a coolant leak from the radiator so i got an uprated one knowing id at least be B16 - ing or boosting the D15.

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It was about the time i did the port polishing and port enlarging.

Back to present times...
So i needed something to mount the DC2 rear roll bar to so i bought myself some shiny things!

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Holiday pic of what ill be competing against...

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The GF's older bros car... yeah its safe to say im a lil scared. i recon ill catch him on braking and cornering though. i am about 400Kg lighter! haha

Ill see you all in... hmmm 5-6 days when the big block gose in ;)

H soon!
By Danny_P
#335758 So the cars on the road, the pull in vtec is sick! did a little bit of weight reduction to counter the H22 as mush as possible but it is a daily driven car so full interior remains.

Heres some pics of the progress.

Befor with intake removed
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Exhaust and rad off/out
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Sub frames being changed and DC2 2.98 turns lock to lock Steering rack fitted with DC2 lower brace.
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Undersealed!
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Wow prelude loom! and alot of it! This is what we had to merge into the EG4 loom...
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Pop!
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Look at all that sound deadening!
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Got rid of all that sound deadening along with the bulkhead deadening.

Where i cut to get the cables through...

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Later i put a thick ruber bung over the sharp edges and filled in the rest with silicone! air tight!

Gear stick inside to attach.
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Pop!

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loadsa speedo shizz!
2 ecus... not for long...
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This suprized me and my old man! the ELD fitted right in the EG4 fuse box out of the lude box! i know the SI / SiR Or ESI/VTI for us UK guys ELD boxes worked but i didnt know the item was identical...

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Diagrams and wires = boring...

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Drive shafts on!
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Air intake, or some of it.. 80mm pipe to a HKS super flow filter!
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Clearance is mental!
To radiator
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I had to go for a slim fan and mounted it on the bumper side...

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From the Intake manifold to my brake bias valve...

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Headlight to alternator belt.

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the 6pk0923 belt has been replaced with a 0900 belt.

and i love this

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Haha

Ill have some more soon but heres a teaser, Rear DC2 roll bar still to fit, front has been fitted with the subframe, lower brace and steering rack.

and i have these!

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Ill post soon
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By Civic_HatchSI
#336636 Wow lots of work going on for this little hatch! Good luck with your build, keep up the good work :thumb:
By Danny_P
#336710 Thanks for the post Civic_HatchSI and for the good feedback, I'll let you into a secret.

My choice on springs was necessary to raise the car as the originals were sagging so much they caused axle bind on the yonaka axles... Something their customer service team were helpful with ill add. But as it was only on the right hand side (UK and JDM drivers side) it's been made too loby and I feel it's something they could change easily and it would benefit alot of people...

But the fronts are on and the axle bind is completely gone! Given it a very good test...

I'll post soon when I've made progress on the rear!

Another hint as to whats after that is a 5th gear crunch and a clutch slip when it's cold...
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By Punksz6
#336786 Nice work so far. A lot of work has been put in. :thumb:
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By DeanPant
#337087 Epic work :thumb:

what spring rates did you go for with your BC coilovers?
By Danny_P
#337313 Thanks Punksz6 and sorry for the late reply!

DeanPant i went for 10kg/mm front and 5kg/mm rear. (Might change the rear for a higher rating if the weight doesn't come near 680 front / 340 rear - thats what im hoping for hence the spring rate upfront being double that of the rear...

Handles well, and sits nice and low... but higher than the original sagging springs. got the rears on now with the ASR brace and LCA's. just the rear roll bar to install then its tweeks...

Apart from the Big problem... (That is still their i found out one night.)

Im getting axle bind on the right hand side from hard left turns... DONT buy yonaka mounts and axles! Luckily (I say with a sigh of disappointment,) the gear box has the notoriours 5th grind as i said earlyer so i went out and got a UK BB8 gearbox.

Heres the ratios to compare,

UK BB8 - M2F5 – 3.307 / 1.950 / 1.360 / 1.071 / 0.870 FD 4.266
JDM BB4 - M2A4 – 3.307 / 1.950 / 1.360 / 1.034 / 0.787 FD 4.266

More acceleration in 4th for the 1/4 mile and more in 5th to see off any EP3 or DC5 to 150mph - ish... box is in my garage now but im guna overhaul it, make sure its right!

And im guna shorten the axle when the box comes out and lay off the fast bends for a little while... well left ones at least.

But then! i got looking into LSD's, might go mfactory or Kazz undecided... going to go with a Synchrotech full rebuild kit with carbon lined synchros too! torco MTF and maybe a 4.64 final drive... maybe, if i do i might have to refurb the JDM box insted. if i didnt the top speed of the uk box would be closer to 130mph than 150mph haha!

But then again i could always raise the rev limiter to 8700rpm or somthing like that when i do some engine work in the future...

Ill get some more pics on the work done so far on the forum soon!