Cold Air Intake Hole On Bumper

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Cold Air Intake Hole On Bumper

By carbonfibreMY
- Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:32 pm #280874 Hey guys i currently have an open pod kit on my Civic Sedan.. Im currently using the 4dr sedan bumper not the EG6 bumper with the seperate hole for foglights.. Im deciding how to drill a hole and mount the hose to direct cold air from the bumper to the air filter..

and what to use as the frame on the bumper that i drill the hole , in Malaysia we have ready made cold air kits which come with a bellmouth like this >>
http://www.google.com.my/imgres?q=cold+air+hose&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbnid=KnIVTkJ4_CqAbM:&imgrefurl=http://www.nex-performance.com/car/c_prod_air_cold.html&docid=1APu65eh0Tp9cM&imgurl=http://www.nex-performance.com/car/cold%252520air%252520hose-2.jpg&w=917&h=677&ei=xbi6TrHVIMvtrQfLquirBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=172&vpy=278&dur=2281&hovh=193&hovw=261&tx=121&ty=72&sig=100342365330315273302&page=1&tbnh=123&tbnw=164&start=0&ndsp=64&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0&biw=1920&bih=986

but i was thinking of doing something nicer and something i could insert a metal mesh to prevent leaves or trash from flying in..

Please advice :)
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By Apexracing
- Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:55 pm #280897 are you turbo charged? what engine are you running?
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By carbonfibreMY
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:58 am #280936 no my engine isn't turbo charged.. running a b16a..

climate here in my country is really hot so the engine bay gets real hot so was planning to make a heat shield for the filter and a air funnel from the bumper to channel air to the filter :)
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By Apexracing
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:14 am #280938 Makes sense but why not run a cold air intake instead of a short ram? And heat wrap your header and down pipe to keep bay temps down. Also keeping the plastic tray under the front end drasticly reduces bay temps by allowing air to pass under the car creating a negative charge in the engine bay. Also adding a front lip helps as well. Sadly for most people this plastic tray along with the rubber air dam are the first to go.
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By mADmAN
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:09 am #280955
Apexracing wrote:Makes sense but why not run a cold air intake instead of a short ram? And heat wrap your header and down pipe to keep bay temps down. Also keeping the plastic tray under the front end drasticly reduces bay temps by allowing air to pass under the car creating a negative charge in the engine bay. Also adding a front lip helps as well. Sadly for most people this plastic tray along with the rubber air dam are the first to go.


a cold air intake would typically put the filter behind the bumper and below the headlights... and malaysia is a country that rains cats and dogs... ALOT. so risk of water getting into the intake is pretty high...hence the usual CAI "systems" of the kind aren't as popular here.

as for the plastic tray... link me pls... would be interested to find out more about this...



@TS
the hoses u put can put the metal mesh... just put it between the hose and the bellmouth...kow tim.

as for the location of the hose... try peeking next to ur foglamp on the inner/grill side to see if theres space to squeeze the hose through
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By Apexracing
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:25 pm #280972
mADmAN wrote:
Apexracing wrote:Makes sense but why not run a cold air intake instead of a short ram? And heat wrap your header and down pipe to keep bay temps down. Also keeping the plastic tray under the front end drasticly reduces bay temps by allowing air to pass under the car creating a negative charge in the engine bay. Also adding a front lip helps as well. Sadly for most people this plastic tray along with the rubber air dam are the first to go.


a cold air intake would typically put the filter behind the bumper and below the headlights... and malaysia is a country that rains cats and dogs... ALOT. so risk of water getting into the intake is pretty high...hence the usual CAI "systems" of the kind aren't as popular here.

as for the plastic tray... link me pls... would be interested to find out more about this...



@TS
the hoses u put can put the metal mesh... just put it between the hose and the bellmouth...kow tim.

as for the location of the hose... try peeking next to ur foglamp on the inner/grill side to see if theres space to squeeze the hose through



# 4 in the picture below is the air dam.
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Below is the plastic fender liner and splash tray system.
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Due to this air damn and the splash tray air is able to smoothly pass under the car. Thus giving the air in the engine bay a negative charge. When you remove these components, Air cant travel under the car as smoothly and is sucked up in the engine bay creating more heat as the hot air can only sit around with no vacuum to help draw it out. And dont underestimate Exhaust wrap it will go along way to keeping things cool, having a rear exhaust K engine i should know all about bay heat, i will be wrapping my header over the winter. :thumb:
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By carbonfibreMY
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:41 pm #280985
Apexracing wrote:
mADmAN wrote:
Apexracing wrote:Makes sense but why not run a cold air intake instead of a short ram? And heat wrap your header and down pipe to keep bay temps down. Also keeping the plastic tray under the front end drasticly reduces bay temps by allowing air to pass under the car creating a negative charge in the engine bay. Also adding a front lip helps as well. Sadly for most people this plastic tray along with the rubber air dam are the first to go.


a cold air intake would typically put the filter behind the bumper and below the headlights... and malaysia is a country that rains cats and dogs... ALOT. so risk of water getting into the intake is pretty high...hence the usual CAI "systems" of the kind aren't as popular here.

as for the plastic tray... link me pls... would be interested to find out more about this...



@TS
the hoses u put can put the metal mesh... just put it between the hose and the bellmouth...kow tim.

as for the location of the hose... try peeking next to ur foglamp on the inner/grill side to see if theres space to squeeze the hose through



# 4 in the picture below is the air dam.
Image

Below is the plastic fender liner and splash tray system.
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Due to this air damn and the splash tray air is able to smoothly pass under the car. Thus giving the air in the engine bay a negative charge. When you remove these components, Air cant travel under the car as smoothly and is sucked up in the engine bay creating more heat as the hot air can only sit around with no vacuum to help draw it out. And dont underestimate Exhaust wrap it will go along way to keeping things cool, having a rear exhaust K engine i should know all about bay heat, i will be wrapping my header over the winter. :thumb:


@Apexracing

Hehe thank god i did not remove that : ) I still have that..
I'm actually using the other bumper this one > http://www.jdmshit.com/parts/headlights/EG9foglights.jpg

@madman

hey bro we meet again : P im sure you remember the young kid that bought the UR Anti Roll Bar at Mid valley ? :P

@two of you

anyways guys i do not want something like thishttp://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/823/4681/2057340005_medium.jpg

i guess it's a matter of preference , i dont fancy the bellmouth type due to the amount of people here in MY with it.. so i was thinking of drilling a hole in my bumper and making a custom air duct that is well shaped to funnel air.. i prefer the idea of an air duct than a bellmouth :hehe:


So now the thing is im deciding to put it on the front side of the bumper or the side of the bumper..

Picture below are my plans.. Black on is for the front of the bumper ; Red is the one for the side of the bumper.
The duct design for both will be pretty much the same.. Air will flow through a hose inside my fender to the side of my fender wall to my open pod filter..

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And was thinking of enclosing my filter with a full heat shield and put rubber on the top to make it partially air tight..

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please ignore how messy the bay is :P [/img]
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By asianrob
- Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:41 am #281035 you can make a poor mans Cold air intake using the factory components.

take off the front bumper and look at the resonator box and its tubing. and from there you can pretty much see what i mean.

or get a cold air intake and make a shield for it and get the bypass valve too?

i wouldnt cut up a bumper like that for a hole.
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By mADmAN
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:40 pm #281448
Apexracing wrote:# 4 in the picture below is the air dam.

Below is the plastic fender liner and splash tray system.

Due to this air damn and the splash tray air is able to smoothly pass under the car. Thus giving the air in the engine bay a negative charge. When you remove these components, Air cant travel under the car as smoothly and is sucked up in the engine bay creating more heat as the hot air can only sit around with no vacuum to help draw it out. And dont underestimate Exhaust wrap it will go along way to keeping things cool, having a rear exhaust K engine i should know all about bay heat, i will be wrapping my header over the winter. :thumb:


ah i see... wat u posted looks like the EG6 original lip. which is wat i have...though im thinking of replacing it with a mugen EG6 lip.

i dont think i have the splash tray though....cant really remember...

and my headers are already wrapped...so i guess its all good :D

and i haz K-envy with u... hehehehehehe

carbonfibreMY wrote:@madman

hey bro we meet again : P im sure you remember the young kid that bought the UR Anti Roll Bar at Mid valley ? :P


LOL its u! hahahahaha....

asianrob wrote:you can make a poor mans Cold air intake using the factory components.

take off the front bumper and look at the resonator box and its tubing. and from there you can pretty much see what i mean.

or get a cold air intake and make a shield for it and get the bypass valve too?

i wouldnt cut up a bumper like that for a hole.


hang on....which one is the resonator? u got pix of wat u mean with the resonator and mebbe an example of the CAI? i kinda need to do the CAI as well for my hatch....dun wanna use the foglamp holes as i wanna use those for brake ducts...

as for cutting up the bumper... its unfortunately a common thing here...to a certain extent i think its useless as most of them are running open pod but the hole is at the side of the bumper... sheesh!

as for the intake system with the valve...any ideas for DIY system? AEM is the only one i know that has it and its expensive... plus those kinda intake systems (with the filter in the bumper area) arent available in this country as far as i know... wat we have are the usual 3" intakes or the whale pen!s intakes...
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By asianrob
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:41 pm #281461
asianrob wrote:you can make a poor mans Cold air intake using the factory components.

take off the front bumper and look at the resonator box and its tubing. and from there you can pretty much see what i mean.

or get a cold air intake and make a shield for it and get the bypass valve too?

i wouldnt cut up a bumper like that for a hole.


hang on....which one is the resonator? u got pix of wat u mean with the resonator and mebbe an example of the CAI? i kinda need to do the CAI as well for my hatch....dun wanna use the foglamp holes as i wanna use those for brake ducts...

as for cutting up the bumper... its unfortunately a common thing here...to a certain extent i think its useless as most of them are running open pod but the hole is at the side of the bumper... sheesh!

as for the intake system with the valve...any ideas for DIY system? AEM is the only one i know that has it and its expensive... plus those kinda intake systems (with the filter in the bumper area) arent available in this country as far as i know... wat we have are the usual 3" intakes or the whale pen!s intakes...[/quote]

heres one using an integra intake air box
http://civic-eg.com/viewtopic.php?p=34665
heres one using the factory eqiupment
http://www.d-series.org/forums/diy-foru ... o-cai.html
i had done it before but i didnt take pictures of it.
when i had mine i did it a little different but it still works
hopefully you can keep it clean and not cut a hole in the bumper lol


theres also Comptech Icebox which youd have to order for the integra ls

http://www.ct-engineering.com/store/intake8.html

this id say would make power over those listed above.
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By mADmAN
- Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:19 pm #281517 those still utilizes an airbox... i wanna maintain an open pod setup...

am considering a BPI Velocity Stack with Blitz SUS filter... so i kinda need a CAI for it...
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By suspendedHatch
- Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:51 am #281597 That part of the bumper is a low pressure area. You think that air is being pushed in if you put a funnel there but the opposite is true. You're better off putting the air filter inside the bumper like AEM does.
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By asianrob
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:44 am #281711 hook up some dryer tubing to this?


http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd. ... tegory=181

place the dyer tubing through the hole and under the filter


btw i have on my car is BloX velocity stack
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By mADmAN
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:14 am #281922
asianrob wrote:hook up some dryer tubing to this?

http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd. ... tegory=181

place the dyer tubing through the hole and under the filter

btw i have on my car is BloX velocity stack


thats definitely in the planning... but im planning on using those as brake ducts...had a track day in july and had SEVERE brake fade to the point where my brakes were smoking after only 2 hot laps.

think ill just do something similar to the AEM CAI...guess ill just have to wait and see


in terms of stacks.. BPI is the only one available here afaik and afaik only 1 seller sells it in limited quantities...


EDIT: anyone knows if its possible to make a DIY air bypass valve similar to AEM's??
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By carbonfibreMY
- Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:14 pm #282158 Good news guys my project is coming along..
Thanks for all the feedback but having the filter near the bumper is a nono in where i live as flash floods are a daily headache ! :thumbdown:

Will be sticking with the original plan
This is what im gonna be using

- broken EG signal lamp ( right side ) coincidentally the shape fits the curve im gonna attach it to my bumper from the inside on the right side. ( my ride is RHD )

- aluminium sheet to make a heatshield in the bay for the filter ( any suggestions on thickness wise to prevent flexing ? )

- a big hose

Will be putting up some pictures soon if i have time busy at the workshop these days..




Anyways @madman and everyone here , do BPI stacks really work ?
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