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By bren94cx
#106780 ok so i need some advise asap
i bought some ebay no name lowering springs from my buddy
i wanna test them on my car before i buy a nice complete coilover kit
im wondering if i need to buy some aftermarket shocks too?
i thought i remember reading that useing oem will prematurely blow them?

also wtf does my car have shocks or struts? whats the difference?

suspension confuses me so much...

HELP!!!
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By jstarone
#106782 I would probably just resell the lowering springs and get the coilovers and be done with it if that's what you want in the end. But if you want to test them then you could put them on your stock struts... they will blow after a while but its not going to be right away. If your only testing them for like a week or something you should be fine. And if you do blow them, you said you were going to get a whole kit, arnt you going to get new struts with that kit?

I have never really be a fan of coilovers unless you get some really expensive ones and do it right. I prefer lowering springs with some nice aftermarket struts. The OEM ones are not made for the lower ride height so it puts more stress on them and over time they will blow.

Hope that helps.
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By asianrob
#106787 get coil overs. they are soo much nicer then just springs and shocks
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By bren94cx
#106790
jstarone wrote:I would probably just resell the lowering springs and get the coilovers and be done with it if that's what you want in the end. But if you want to test them then you could put them on your stock struts... they will blow after a while but its not going to be right away. If your only testing them for like a week or something you should be fine. And if you do blow them, you said you were going to get a whole kit, arnt you going to get new struts with that kit?

I have never really be a fan of coilovers unless you get some really expensive ones and do it right. I prefer lowering springs with some nice aftermarket struts. The OEM ones are not made for the lower ride height so it puts more stress on them and over time they will blow.

Hope that helps.



thats very helpful
who would you recommend for aftermarket struts?
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By asianrob
#106791
bren94cx wrote:
jstarone wrote:I would probably just resell the lowering springs and get the coilovers and be done with it if that's what you want in the end. But if you want to test them then you could put them on your stock struts... they will blow after a while but its not going to be right away. If your only testing them for like a week or something you should be fine. And if you do blow them, you said you were going to get a whole kit, arnt you going to get new struts with that kit?

I have never really be a fan of coilovers unless you get some really expensive ones and do it right. I prefer lowering springs with some nice aftermarket struts. The OEM ones are not made for the lower ride height so it puts more stress on them and over time they will blow.

Hope that helps.



thats very helpful
who would you recommend for aftermarket struts?


if you do that route i suggest Ground control coilovers and Koni Yellows or if you dont have that bugdet Ground controls and KYB AGX
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By bren94cx
#106793 ok ill look into it
i just wanna do something for now until i get money again

whats the deal with shocks vs. struts?
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By suspendedHatch
#106925 The deal with "shocks" and "struts" is purely semantic. Anyone here (including myself) could give you a quick definition of each but it would most likely be wrong. In other words, even people that know what they're talking about don't agree. But in short, it has to do with the type of suspension you're describing. Civics from 88-00 are double wishbone. 01+ Civics, RSX's, and virtually every other non-truck, non-exotic on the road is Mcpherson strut. The part that you're referring to plays a slightly different role in each of those types of suspensions, so even though the part looks exactly the same, it has a different name. (Notice that I'm dodging using the word "strut" or "shock" because I'll most likely get them mixed up).

One thing everyone can agree on is that the correct term is "damper". Don't worry too much about saying "strut" or "shock". Everyone knows what you mean, and only the anal-retentive and highly arrogant people are going to try to give you shit for it.



There is no inherent difference between the wheel rates or quality of a strut/spring combo and a coilover kit. For example, you could get yourself some Eibach lowering springs and some Koni struts, or you could get Ground Control coilovers with Koni struts. Ground Control uses Eibach springs. Eibach and Koni both offer custom rates. So the brand, quality, and rates would be exactly the same. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT "COILOVERS" HAVE AN ADJUSTABLE PERCH ALLOWING YOU TO CHANGE THE RIDE HEIGHT.

There are cheap imitation lowering springs, and there are high end lowering springs. There are cheap imitation coilovers, and there are high end coilovers. In either case, the cheap stuff is garbage you should have never wasted money on. The high end stuff is overkill that you should have never wasted money on (unless it's a dedicated race vehicle that never sees the street).

And if you want to get technical, the stock suspension is a coil over suspension. "Coil over" simply means that the strut is inside the spring. But when we're talking about aftermarket suspension, we say "coil over" but what we mean is that the ride height is adjustable. How is that for anal-retentive and arrogant?
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By zeppelin101
#106961
suspendedHatch wrote:And if you want to get technical, the stock suspension is a coil over suspension. "Coil over" simply means that the strut is inside the spring. But when we're talking about aftermarket suspension, we say "coil over" but what we mean is that the ride height is adjustable. How is that for anal-retentive and arrogant?


Unless you have horrible torsion beam suspension then they're not coil overs :P

Again being analy-retentive and a nob end.
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By bren94cx
#107092 hahahahahaha i love you guys
thanks a ton for the help
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By Faded_Milano
#107121 you should swap in some leaf springs 8)
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By suspendedHatch
#108107
zeppelin101 wrote:
Unless you have horrible torsion beam suspension then they're not coil overs :P

Again being analy-retentive and a nob end.


Figures, LOL.