H22A
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By chrono404
#218693
mooze wrote:o and handling......for every day driving its fine.....for those bats outta hell look of for some understeer. nothing major if u can drive


Got Understeer? You need a bigger rear sway bar then problem fixed. :thumb:

Having a pinch of oversteer is my preference, Much more controllable the understeer.

H2B doesn't move the H any farther forward like it does when you go a full h swap. This is why you need to gap the hood, on the plus side it keeps axles where they want to be as well as not effecting handling. you have a little bit more weight. however not much to sneeze about.
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By mooze
#218811 no.....h2b leans the motor foward vs its original set which is why u gap the hood. usually with a h or f they lean towards the firewall. with h2d&h2b it leans opposite towards the bumper.like so
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how do u ask questions and try to correct people who have it and tell u how it iz?
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By mooze
#218812 and a h full h swap doesnt move foward.......where did u get that....your mounting in the same location...
By Method
#218815 i didn't know it sat that weird.
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By mooze
#218816
Method wrote:i didn't know it sat that weird.

yeah that y it requires the custom drivers side mount. the angle is way forward compared to original angle. sits just as though its a b or a d . flat across the top
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By chrono404
#218902
mooze wrote:and a h full h swap doesnt move foward.......where did u get that....your mounting in the same location...

I read that with a full H Series swap it had more mass infront of the strut towers with how the mounts have the engine sit. I also read that the H2B Mounts do not do this which will resault in better handling.

mooze wrote:no.....h2b leans the motor foward vs its original set which is why u gap the hood. usually with a h or f they lean towards the firewall. with h2d&h2b it leans opposite towards the bumper.like so

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how do u ask questions and try to correct people who have it and tell u how it iz?


Thanks for the pics always good info. I'm not sure what your asking/saying in your last sentence.
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By OleFolk
#219212 I don't mean to noob up the thread
I just want to make sure I know this info
If I understand correctly
An H2D is an H22 with a d series transmission
An H2B is an H22 with a B series transmission
Right?
If so wouldn't you need a conversion plate or so for the tranny?
Or do they actually bolt with no problems?

chrono404 wrote:
Method wrote:With the H2B kits the Engine sits up like |, Similer to how a D and B Sit. Unlike the normal / sloped H22 Swap....Also given how the Q2B H2B kit work and not sloping the H22 back in the bay it shouldn't effect handling.

And could someone validate this information.

Sorry folks im just looking forward to an H22 this summer :D
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By kross
#219224
chrono404 wrote:
Method wrote:With the H2B kits the Engine sits up like |, Similer to how a D and B Sit. Unlike the normal / sloped H22 Swap....Also given how the Q2B H2B kit work and not sloping the H22 back in the bay it shouldn't effect handling.

And could someone validate this information.

Sorry folks im just looking forward to an H22 this summer :D


yes, they use a kinda aluminum spacer. here is aan h2d to give you an idea http://www.civic-eg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12110
and trust me for the stock power of the H22 its worth it. the myth's about handling is really just myths. and if you go turbo the sky's the limit lol.
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By mooze
#219244
OleFolk wrote:I don't mean to noob up the thread
I just want to make sure I know this info
If I understand correctly
An H2D is an H22 with a d series transmission
An H2B is an H22 with a B series transmission
Right?
If so wouldn't you need a conversion plate or so for the tranny?
Or do they actually bolt with no problems?

chrono404 wrote:
Method wrote:With the H2B kits the Engine sits up like |, Similer to how a D and B Sit. Unlike the normal / sloped H22 Swap....Also given how the Q2B H2B kit work and not sloping the H22 back in the bay it shouldn't effect handling.

And could someone validate this information.

Sorry folks im just looking forward to an H22 this summer :D

yeah h2d and h2b are basically the same things with different plates. there is a slight handling difference. the worst is the torque steer which i think is more s caused by the weight differential from the motor to tranny. the b may eliminate this a little more because of the equal length axles but its still there. as seen in my pix METHOD IS RIGHT. with the kits the h sits straight up instead of sloped.
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By OleFolk
#219258 Thank you kross and mooze
I appreciate the response.

Also would RSX axles be beneficial for this swap?
Ive heard they fit with an eg

Edit: I am swapping to H because
I dont even want to get into the B series relm
The H series are made for high performance
And high performance is what im lookin for
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By Ajax1989
#220398 i too am looking in to doin a h22 with a h2d(bisimoto kit)
and all this info is good to know..

and chrono
my friend has a 96 prelude wit a h22a 5spd all stock
and his car will tach around 4-5k in 5th doin about 60mph
its was like 4yrs ago tho so it might be a lil off, all i know is it tached high and ran fine :thumb:
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By chrono404
#220406
94_jdm_ferio wrote:i too am looking in to doin a h22 with a h2d(bisimoto kit)
and all this info is good to know..

and chrono
my friend has a 96 prelude wit a h22a 5spd all stock
and his car will tach around 4-5k in 5th doin about 60mph
its was like 4yrs ago tho so it might be a lil off, all i know is it tached high and ran fine :thumb:



Good to know. H2B is looking like a Promising way to go for my Refresh for the Delsol Next Year.

:thumb: To this thread helping people convert to H2b's and H2d's
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By Ajax1989
#220408
chrono404 wrote:
94_jdm_ferio wrote:i too am looking in to doin a h22 with a h2d(bisimoto kit)
and all this info is good to know..

and chrono
my friend has a 96 prelude wit a h22a 5spd all stock
and his car will tach around 4-5k in 5th doin about 60mph
its was like 4yrs ago tho so it might be a lil off, all i know is it tached high and ran fine :thumb:



Good to know. H2B is looking like a Promising way to go for my Refresh for the Delsol Next Year.

:thumb: To this thread helping people convert to H2b's and H2d's


if you plan on running a bisimoto h2b kit
i would recommend joining his fourm
http://www.bisimoto.com/forum/
if havent already, you can learn more about the kit
from bisi himself :thumb:
By Randull
#220516
94_jdm_ferio wrote:
chrono404 wrote:
94_jdm_ferio wrote:i too am looking in to doin a h22 with a h2d(bisimoto kit)
and all this info is good to know..

and chrono
my friend has a 96 prelude wit a h22a 5spd all stock
and his car will tach around 4-5k in 5th doin about 60mph
its was like 4yrs ago tho so it might be a lil off, all i know is it tached high and ran fine :thumb:



Good to know. H2B is looking like a Promising way to go for my Refresh for the Delsol Next Year.

:thumb: To this thread helping people convert to H2b's and H2d's


if you plan on running a bisimoto h2b kit
i would recommend joining his fourm
http://www.bisimoto.com/forum/
if havent already, you can learn more about the kit
from bisi himself :thumb:


FUH SHO! That forum has some good stuff, Hedi and I get bored from time to time and post some fun stuff up there!

With that in mind, if anyone is interested, now is the time to swoop on an H2B/H2D! Shipping on everything in the online store is $5!
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By mooze
#220649
94_jdm_ferio wrote:i too am looking in to doin a h22 with a h2d(bisimoto kit)
and all this info is good to know..

and chrono
my friend has a 96 prelude wit a h22a 5spd all stock
and his car will tach around 4-5k in 5th doin about 60mph
its was like 4yrs ago tho so it might be a lil off, all i know is it tached high and ran fine :thumb:


damn thats high. with my h2d in 5th at 75mph im at 3k