B18b3 Transmission with B16a6

B16, B18, B20
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By Ajax1989
- Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:30 pm #262991
mooze wrote:hp sells cars...torque wins races



THIS!!!

hp isnt shit,

TORQUE wins races! its wat gets ur car going
hp just keeps it going...

so yea a 140hp motor and 120-130ish ft lbs of torque(dont know the spec)

is gonna beat a 160hp motor with a 110ft lbs of torque

thats another reason b16s are slow, even a simi built d16z6 beats b16's

so wat did ya learn?

its torque torque torque <-- like location, location location lol[/b]
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By Eg6H2D
- Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:25 am #263021
chrono404 wrote:
elrompetoto wrote:
Greasedmonkey wrote:A B18b with a B16a tranny will beat a Full B16a swap. It will also beat a full GSR swap. I know this because I had this. I was neck and neck with a JDM ITR swapped EK with a 4.9 final drive.

THe LS has more torque and better low end pwer than a B16a.
A ls with a b16 trany runing 100 % will not out run a full b16 runing 100% just look at the hP plain and simple....... And I have owns full ls swaps and beat b16 and Gsr and also had ls and b20 with b16 tranys and they move there fast but not faster the a b16 runing 100%


Really?

My 140hp B20 with B16 Transmission in a Delsol Si left my friends Delsol VTEC with a Factory B16 in the dust. He had full Intake, Headers and exhaust, just like my Sol, However he had a better clutch. We did quite a few races and every single time I left him eating my dust. Freeway pulls, 1/4mile, from a dig, etc.

A b16 has more Horsepower, however the b18 and the b20's have much much more torque, and the useable power is lower in the rev band so you pull away. This is why "Bench Racing" or "racing" by looking at just numbers is pointless. the most important part about power is being able to use it effectively.

My b20/b16 tranny Delsol has beat quite a few cars including full gsr swap in eg hatch, "Built gsr"(itr cams, valves,etc) in eg hatch, many gsr teggys, 1st gen turbo supra, r32 vr6 golf, etc.

Try doing all that with a bone stock b16 engine with just Intake, headers and exhaust. Pro Tip, you cant.



THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! Geez people never understand the WHOLE HP thing. it's number.. not all motors really run on just that! as you mention is how effectively it's used and torque.. Ive seen many b20/b16 trans set ups hurts many many built swap feelings. for just stock!! those torque bands make a difference!!!!!!!
B20/b16 trans b16 head . See you later ITR!! in a del sol at that!! smh!!

:woot: :thumb:
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By Eg6H2D
- Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:26 am #263022
94_jdm_ferio wrote:
mooze wrote:hp sells cars...torque wins races



THIS!!!

hp isnt shit,

TORQUE wins races! its wat gets ur car going
hp just keeps it going...

so yea a 140hp motor and 120-130ish ft lbs of torque(dont know the spec)

is gonna beat a 160hp motor with a 110ft lbs of torque

thats another reason b16s are slow, even a simi built d16z6 beats b16's

so wat did ya learn?

its torque torque torque <-- like location, location location lol[/b]



Yesssiirrr! TORQUE DOES IT!!! lol
My Single eats stock B16s for breakfast homie!!
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By Ajax1989
- Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:04 am #263030
EG6b20R wrote:
94_jdm_ferio wrote:
mooze wrote:hp sells cars...torque wins races



THIS!!!

hp isnt shit,

TORQUE wins races! its wat gets ur car going
hp just keeps it going...

so yea a 140hp motor and 120-130ish ft lbs of torque(dont know the spec)

is gonna beat a 160hp motor with a 110ft lbs of torque

thats another reason b16s are slow, even a simi built d16z6 beats b16's

so wat did ya learn?

its torque torque torque <-- like location, location location lol[/b]



Yesssiirrr! TORQUE DOES IT!!! lol
My Single eats stock B16s for breakfast homie!!


i bet, and ur h22 is gonna rape even more then a ls/b16trans set up
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By Eg6H2D
- Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:20 am #263039
94_jdm_ferio wrote:
EG6b20R wrote:
94_jdm_ferio wrote:
mooze wrote:hp sells cars...torque wins races



THIS!!!

hp isnt shit,

TORQUE wins races! its wat gets ur car going
hp just keeps it going...

so yea a 140hp motor and 120-130ish ft lbs of torque(dont know the spec)

is gonna beat a 160hp motor with a 110ft lbs of torque

thats another reason b16s are slow, even a simi built d16z6 beats b16's

so wat did ya learn?

its torque torque torque <-- like location, location location lol[/b]



Yesssiirrr! TORQUE DOES IT!!! lol
My Single eats stock B16s for breakfast homie!!


i bet, and ur h22 is gonna rape even more then a ls/b16trans set up


lol think so?? Im actually thinking of picking on a few K series see how far behind i get left IF i even do.. lol.. Got a few cocky ones out here..
Nothing serious as far as set ups go.
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