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jdm b16?????
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:26 pmby hondahero89
Been wondering if i should buy a jdm 2nd gen b16. i kno its a powerhouse but i dont wanna deal with searching for the parts to maintain it. also is it difficult to maintain. im considering swappin it into my hatch.
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:26 pmby egsedanguy
well the usdm and jdm parts will work together. i dont think ther is a big diff in the us and jdm b16
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:31 pmby asianrob
egsedanguy wrote:well the usdm and jdm parts will work together. i dont think ther is a big diff in the us and jdm b16
the difference is
cams.
Pistons
and
the block doesnt say (a2 or a3 like the USDM blocks do)
Posted:
Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:34 pmby egsedanguy
ok so cams and pistons. but for the most part you can interchange all the bolt on stuff....
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:26 pmby hondahero89
really? thats great! but what do i do when i wanna change my cams and etc. what jdm company should i turn to
Posted:
Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:28 pmby egsedanguy
skunk 2, crower um not sure what else.
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:45 pmby asianrob
if you do different cams I do go with Rocket motor sports M22 Cams and Valve springs and retainers i think that would be comparable to a JUN stage 3 cams or something like that.
http://www.m24x.com/
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:34 amby hondahero89
sounds like a plan! thanks for the advice.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:02 amby thirdson
b16a2's are also quite a strong engine..here in NZ they get boosted with stock internals and some run quite high boost..dont forget to make a build thread if you get the b16a2..
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:34 amby chrono404
The JDM B16 has 10 more hp becouse of higher compression, different pistons, cams, ecu, etc.
One big difference most people dont think of is the Transmission that comes attached to the engine.
The JDM B16 tranny has the same gears the USDM GSR does, However the USDM B16 99-00 Civic Si Tranny has shorter gears so it will accelerate better.
I would recommend putting the USDM b16 off the 99-00 Civic Si and Delsol VTEC on whatever B Series you get.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:38 amby asianrob
chrono404 wrote:The JDM B16 has 10 more hp becouse of higher compression, different pistons, cams, ecu, etc.
One big difference most people dont think of is the Transmission that comes attached to the engine.
The JDM B16 tranny has the same gears the USDM GSR does, However the USDM B16 99-00 Civic Si Tranny has shorter gears so it will accelerate better.
I would recommend putting the USDM b16 off the 99-00 Civic Si and Delsol VTEC on whatever B Series you get.
who told you JDM b16 trans has same gears as GSR is wrong....
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flat ... Ratios.htm
http://hondaswap.com/swap-articles/b-se ... ide-29099/
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm
you can check these sites for the complete gear ratio guide.
only diff. on the JDM trans and the USDM trans is i think 1st gear.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:01 amby chrono404
DC4rob wrote:who told you JDM b16 trans has same gears as GSR is wrong....
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flat ... Ratios.htm
http://hondaswap.com/swap-articles/b-se ... ide-29099/
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm
you can check these sites for the complete gear ratio guide.
only diff. on the JDM trans and the USDM trans is i think 1st gear.
Defentually different then what I was informed, I will dig deeper on this.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:46 amby asianrob
chrono404 wrote:DC4rob wrote:who told you JDM b16 trans has same gears as GSR is wrong....
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flat ... Ratios.htm
http://hondaswap.com/swap-articles/b-se ... ide-29099/
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm
you can check these sites for the complete gear ratio guide.
only diff. on the JDM trans and the USDM trans is i think 1st gear.
Deferentially different then what I was informed, I will dig deeper on this.
nice i was confused when you said that lol i had to do a little bit of search on too lol.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:24 pmby Greasedmonkey
hondahero89 wrote:really? thats great! but what do i do when i wanna change my cams and etc. what jdm company should i turn to
you should turn to me. I have a set of Toda cams you can buy!!
JDM companys would be,
TODA, Spoon, Buddy Club, JUN....
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:59 pmby That One Dude
USDM ITR and JDM ITR and B16 gear ratios are identical for 96-97spec JDM ITR, 97-01 USDM ITR, and all B16 trannies.
The GSR tranny (USDM and JDM) is a longer geared tranny. It's better for mild boosted engines and street driven moderate powered engines.
Major difference between the B16 and ITR trannies is that the JDM ITR has an LSD, B16 does not depending on JDM or USDM, ITR has double synchros, and a stronger case. I was just schooled on that over on my other forum...
And back to the "What do I do when I change my pistons and cams?" question. ALL B-series VTEC cams will work in ALL B-series VTEC heads. And whatever piston you want, make sure it's for the B16 of whatever suffix you have. Generally, the B16 pistons are all going to fit in the B16. I believe the bore is 81mm, so essentially, any B18 pistons will fit in there iif you use the B18 rods, piston pins, rings, and crank. Then you have a stroked B16.