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Will using these integra brake components make a difference?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:10 pm
by ForneyHatch
I upgraded my 94 CX's stock 9.41" rotors with drilled/slotted rotors and cheap ceramic pads that came in a kit. I also have stainless steal lines installed. It still feels as though it doesn't stop well. Recently, I picked up a 1994 integra 15/16 master cylinder and proportioning valve. These components are just siting in my garage now. Should I just slap on the Integra brake ms, prop valve, and a set of HAWK HP pads and expect a huge difference in stopping power? The Brake MS looks huge compared to my CX's. Or, should I just scrap my CX's front brakes and get Integra front calipers, rotors, caliper bracket, and HP pads along with the other Integra parts mentioned? Will this be more beneficial? I think the Integra's front rotors are 10.3". I want to take my car to open track days and need a durable strong combination. I'm willing to hear any opinions. Thanks.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:44 pm
by EJ1_MK
The master cylinder will help, the prop valve is really not needed until you do a rear disk swap. Besides that you can just put pads on and will improve the stopping power, at the same time it would be beneficial to up to the 10.3", there is more area for the pad to grab. but just adding SS lines and the MC and the pad rotor combo will completely change your braking.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:13 am
by ForneyHatch
additionally, i did change out the stock CX rear drums for 94 Integra rear disc brakes. The 94 teg proportioning valve looks exactly the same as my CX's. Kinda odd. Would I need a GSR prop valve instead? I'll go ahead and install the MC and see what kind of difference that makes.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:11 pm
by bks84
You just need a prop. valve that's stamped 40/40. You can get em from any 90-97 Integra as long as it doesnt have ABS. 98-01 will work too but will require you to rebend all your brake lines to accommodate.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:23 pm
by That One Dude
Your best bet to find a 40/40 proportioning valve is to get on eBay. I've seen them all over the damn place for cheap. If you can find a 40/40 at a junk yard, more power to you. Integra RS was not a very common model, but is easily distinguished by the lack of sunroof and no ABS module.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:35 pm
by ForneyHatch
This is the proportioning valve i picked up for my CX at the salvage yard. This should work, right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=120780051597

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:39 pm
by bks84
if it says 40/40 should be fine...

if not, they're cheaper at the junkyard... like i said you can use one from a 90-93 integra (super common in my area)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:43 pm
by ForneyHatch
Lastly, has anyone upgraded their cx, dx, etc with integra front calipers, caliper brakets, and rotors? If so, is this honestly a huge difference in braking capacity? The rotor is almost a full inch bigger in diameter. Refer to top of thread.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:44 pm
by Wicked
Your car will only stop as good as your tires will allow. How bald or cheap are your tires?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:06 pm
by That One Dude
This is true. However, you can have amazing with shitty brakes, and still not stop as well as good brakes on decent tires.

OP, if you already have the DC rear brake setup, why not upgrade to the DC front brake setup? It will only help your search for better brakes.

Have you checked the whole brake hydraulic system for leaks? That will cause your shit to not function properly also.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:18 pm
by RWMIII
That One Dude wrote:This is true. However, you can have amazing with shitty brakes, and still not stop as well as good brakes on decent tires.

OP, if you already have the DC rear brake setup, why not upgrade to the DC front brake setup? It will only help your search for better brakes.

Have you checked the whole brake hydraulic system for leaks? That will cause your shit to not function properly also.


x2

and x100 on the 40/40 prop valve :thumb:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:09 pm
by ForneyHatch
My tires are adequate and I have no leaks anywhere in my brake system. I guess i'm just comparing my civic's brakes to my dd bmw. I feel there is room for improvement. First, I'll install the integra Master Cylinder and 40/40 valve. I have 14" steel stock CX rims. Will adding the integra front brakes and brackets require bigger wheels? I'm planning to upgrade wheels anyways if that is the case.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:39 am
by RWMIII
ForneyHatch wrote:My tires are adequate and I have no leaks anywhere in my brake system. I guess i'm just comparing my civic's brakes to my dd bmw. I feel there is room for improvement. First, I'll install the integra Master Cylinder and 40/40 valve. I have 14" steel stock CX rims. Will adding the integra front brakes and brackets require bigger wheels? I'm planning to upgrade wheels anyways if that is the case.


14s will be fine. Integras had 14 x 5.5 steelies available.