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By ImThaBean
#208658 As far as I'm aware, there has never been a reported accident and the title is clear. That doesn't mean that it's never been in one, but I will never know at this point.

I'm just wondering why there's a drift now, but not before.
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By Greasedmonkey
#208718 The guy that did you alignment didnt set it correctly.
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By ImThaBean
#208726 That's what I figured. What do you expect when you pay $50 at a hole in the wall tire shop. Looks like I'll save some pennies and get it done as a reputable shop next time around.
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By Greasedmonkey
#208778 The thread posts out that you do not NEED camber kits. But its up the individual to decide whether they want them or not.

If you want them, get them. Its your car.
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By ImThaBean
#208787 Yeah, I know. I meant, I'll go get an alignment done at a better shop. I can care less about the camber. I just want to drive straight and not eat tires every 2-3 months when I drive the 4 miles to work daily.
By EJ1STYLEN
#208797 look at your copy of the alignment print out and look at your ASI and see how much of degree is out to see if something is bent...
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By ImThaBean
#208806 That's the thing. I didn't get a print out. Te gut just wrote my original/adjusted toe and that there is no warranty cause the camber is not in spec on the sales work order. I don't think I saw a printer anywhere near the alignment machine.
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By Greasedmonkey
#208837 I can get a lifetime warranty on my alignment with my camber out. The car doesnt have camber adjustments from HONDA. so why should it have them after I lower it.

The civic is just a toe and go car. thats all you can adjust.
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By ImThaBean
#208841 I'm just gonna drop the $70 to get it done at American Tire. They've never done me wrong on tires and service on all the cars I've taken in there. That way I can get a warranty and know it got done right. There is something that guy did to the car, I know it. He fixed the toe (partially) but it just feels like it's planted to the ground now. It feels stiffer and the leftward drift... I have a feeling he "fixed" it so it's not wearing the tire as bad but enough to where I'd want to go back to buy the camber kits and get it realigned.
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By Torch_Ind
#210236 at the end of the day. no it's not required or really a big safety concern but you will wear tires unevenly with really bad camber!

I would rather see people go around with neg camber with there lowering kit then see people driving around with loose and worn out ball joints and tie rods.

but a true Yes Or No on if you need camber kits is a personal opinion!! and thats about as far as it goes!!

My vote is Yes buy them and do it right and get better tire wear and full tire contact to the road!! It will help in rain and low traction situations!

but if you want to look cool and low on the ground look and can't even do camber because your control arms would be out to far and hit in your upper fenders well it's something your going to have to live with for the cool factor.

I to at one point "young and dumb" picked the cool look factor over the right way for looks and this was my tire wear with toe perfectly set!! the only out of spec was camber!!

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By Greasedmonkey
#210270 The answer is still NO...

You do not NEED camber kits. With a proper alignment you can drive like normal for quite some time. I know, Im doing it. As are lots of other people. Im sure they help many people that are afraid of camber wear, or that want more negative camber for wheel fitment. They just are not needed.
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By Torch_Ind
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Greasedmonkey wrote:The answer is still NO...

You do not NEED camber kits. With a proper alignment you can drive like normal for quite some time. I know, Im doing it. As are lots of other people. Im sure they help many people that are afraid of camber wear, or that want more negative camber for wheel fitment. They just are not needed.


thats your opinion my friend!! I'm not going to agree with you if you look at my tire pic's i posted the side wall is worn off and my tire still has 1/2 or more tread but the tire is unsafe with cords hanging out.

with camber kits I got twice the miles out of my tires

Thats my opinion!! Sticking to it! if you want to look cool and have your tires slanted in and don't mind the wear then your right you don't need them but if you want proper tire wear you do




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Irregular tread wear signals alignment problems. A saw-tooth pattern (left) indicates a toe problem, and beveled wear (right) points to camber problems. (Courtesy Hunter Engineering)

if you have the issue on the left and want it corrected you will need camber kits. bringing it in and telling the tech no don't do camber just do toe. it won't fix the problem!! and you will just be mad cause you believed a rant on a forum in-staid of a licensed tech!! and your out another set of tires and more money in alignments and tires.
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By Greasedmonkey
#210399 Camber doesnt wear out tires as fast as you think. Ive done alignments for quite a while.

They are not needed.

I know they help. they were designed to adjust the camber on a car that didnt have the ability. Getting them is indeed personal preference, but that still doesnt change the fact that you do not need them.


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That was with -3* front camber. Funny how they are evenly worn.
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By sixspeedhatch
#210411 wow so you got those results by adjusting your toe eh i shall have to try this
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By Torch_Ind
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sixspeedhatch wrote:wow so you got those results by adjusting your toe eh i shall have to try this


lol